UDFA Rookies be able to be claimed post-BCD Draft? APPROVED

[Chargers GM (Greg)]

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[Buccaneers GM (Kevin)]

Looks like I can forget working the UDFA wire

[Bengals GM (David)]

Your annoyance is misdirected and I do understand where it's coming from. Nothing annoys me more than finding out that other people want the same person I do. That doesn't mean they didn't do any less scouting and research than I have, it just means we all like that player. And yes, sometimes they very well have done next to no research and want the player anyway just because he's on X team. People still look up every single player up as they get are being acquired. Whether it was FA or waivers. Just because they can be had through waivers, doesn't make it any less "skillful" to be able to find someone you like.

The notion that you or I are the only person to know about a player is pretty arrogant. I know there are people I sit on for a bit and if someone else nominates a player I will bid on that player as well. Here, just because someone was "first" at nominating a player doesn't mean they should be the only team to get that player. There is no first come first serve in the NFL when it comes to UDFAs and FAs so we do the best we can to simulate that process here to the best of our capabilities.

If you want to change how it will work, come up with a good actionable idea how these UDFAs are acquired through waivers for vote. There seems to be some traction over talking about a blind bid system which seems promising.

[Chargers GM (Greg)]

I think everyone is over reacting to how UDFA are acquired. Most times the hardest thing to do is clear roster space to either bid on an undrafted FA or acquire him through waivers.

For a number of years in Blitz, we used the proposed waiver system and then moved to the free agent bidding system. Either works...they are just different. One of the downsides of the free agent bidding system is that I now have a number of UDFAs on my team that are not eligible for the practice squad because they are not on scale contracts.

We just need to resolve this issue with a league vote so that the method of acquisition is clear and then live with it. It's really not likely to restrict the number of UDFA any team acquires. It just requires a different strategy.

[Buccaneers GM (Kevin)]

Apr 27, 2017 13:15:59 GMT -6 Bengals GM (David) said:

Your annoyance is misdirected and I do understand where it's coming from. Nothing annoys me more than finding out that other people want the same person I do. That doesn't mean they didn't do any less scouting and research than I have, it just means we all like that player. And yes, sometimes they very well have done next to no research and want the player anyway just because he's on X team. People still look up every single player up as they get are being acquired. Whether it was FA or waivers. Just because they can be had through waivers, doesn't make it any less "skillful" to be able to find someone you like.

The notion that you or I are the only person to know about a player is pretty arrogant. I know there are people I sit on for a bit and if someone else nominates a player I will bid on that player as well. Here, just because someone was "first" at nominating a player doesn't mean they should be the only team to get that player. There is no first come first serve in the NFL when it comes to UDFAs and FAs so we do the best we can to simulate that process here to the best of our capabilities.

If you want to change how it will work, come up with a good actionable idea how these UDFAs are acquired through waivers for vote. There seems to be some traction over talking about a blind bid system which seems promising.

That's not my point, it may have been someone elses but not mine. I have no problem with another GM going after a player I like and if we bid we get to compete and choose how much we like him. If several GM's have done their research then great lets win him fair and square. 

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I was the one that made point about owners benefiting off others scouting. I understand its going to happen regardless, but with waiver claim a team potentially can lose out on a guy just because they are lower on the waiver. Atleast with the bidding system you get an actual shot to go after the guy you like and the winner being determined by who is willing to fork out the most cash. I understand wanting to be able to have these Undrafted rookie contracts to scale for PS purposes, but if that's the case why not just add another round to the draft.

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dont like it at all

[Buccaneers GM (Kevin)]

where is the list ?

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I like Donald's idea of adding an extra round of draft picks. If people don't want the extra pick that deep they can trade it and it gives those who want extra players (UDFA's) a chance to get them on a scale contract.

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I would be down to adding a 5th round of picks