Cin/Den Trade (VETOED 0-4)

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Den trades
Rb cj anderson 14.70m 2020
2018 pick 62
19 den 3rd
19 wash 3rd


ciny trades
Theeir amnesrty to be used on cj anderson

I accept salary dump



 

[Bengals GM (David)]

Cincinnati accepts.

2nd + 2 future 3rds for almost 45m is more expensive than people will be trading picks soon anyways. If CJ doesn’t sign somewhere I’ll amnesty him.

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You actually need to give something up for this to be a trade. You aren’t trading the amnesty, you would “potentially” be using it. So, veto I guess

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^^^ veto

[Bengals GM (David)]

Would it matter if I lied and said I’d 100% amnesty him right away? Dead cap is dead cap. And 14.75 for 3 years is something I’d never pay if you ever paid attention to my free agency tendencies ever. It would be atypical of me to keep him. But you are tripping over wording?

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Whether or not you use the amnesty isn’t the issue. You still aren’t trading anything. Even when I did a similar move with Ladarius I got a late 4th back.

[Buccaneers GM (Kevin)]

Surely this should be written


Denver trades

2.30
19 3rd DEN
19 3rd WAS as cap dump compensation
CJ Anderson - to 2020: $14.7, 2021 UFA as a cap dump


Cincinnati

Trades nothing



what CIN does with Anderson once they get him is their decision.

This for me helps both teams out but penalises the league so Veto from me

[Commanders GM (Kevin)]

Here's how I look at it, if DEN cuts CJ he has to pay him 7.35M or something like that over 3 years so 22M ish, so essentialy he's trading 3 picks (2nd, 3rd, 3rd) for 22M, which isn't unreasonable at draft time as we have seen in the past. But being david may or may not use his amnesty makes this trade nothing for 3+ free picks. Being as DEN team is pretty terrible the picks are useful to him i think this trade hurts and helps his team, I think the amnesty has to be designated to be used for this trade to have value.

Veto, I'm at work I tried to be quick idk if this makes sense or it's just me lol

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Indy just had a trade for Jordy where he atleast gave up cap get vetoed. Cincy is literally giving up nothing.

Veto 4-0

[Bengals GM (David)]

@rams More context is needed. Ben gave a lot lot less cap and Ben got a good player who's actually on a team who had a much smaller cap hit. CJ's cap hit > Jordy's cap hit. CJ isn't on a team > Jordy is on a team.

@joe and Kevin Especially in cap dump trades, trading nothing definitely has precedent. I am "trading" cap to the other team by taking on a bad contract. People here give up bad contract players to equalize trades all the time but you guys are getting spooked over the wording. The IRL Browns / Texans trade is exactly what is trying to be negotiated here.

All in all it'll be reworked, I knew that off the bat it probably wouldn't work. Also can't help to think that if I posted the original trade and lied this wouldn't have been an issue.

[Bengals GM (David)]

Trade is vetoed.